john boehner said early on, well, we can do it through tax reform. but he -- that, by saying that he was saying we can raise taxes on the rich. now, think there are some really tricky things that we face here. one is, the republicans just don't want to go back to those clinton rates. i think the right way to do this is to restore all the clinton rates and then have a discussion of tax reform. you're not going to be able to raise as much money as people say you can. for example, are people going to really want to whack at the mortgage deduction when we're just coming out of a housing crisis? and then if you don't really whack at it, then you're not raising much money. but the republicans, i think, have signaled very clearly that they know that if they spend the rest of the year sounding like they're just fighting to save very rich people from modest tax increases, they know that's a political loser. >> all right. here's speaker boehner on the chances of cutting a deal. here it is. >> if you've looked closely at what the president had to say and look c